Category Archives: Interclub

Team Jackets – Order NOW – Deadline is 4/9

Here are some details on our new team Jacket. It will be produced by Karbon and ready for pickup at the first team practice. We need to place our order by April 9th. Below is a picture of the Jacket along with a link to order. Click the link below for more Jacket details. Karbon will not accept orders after April 9th, so please place your order ASAP.

Link to order: https://squareup.com/market/catamount-race-team

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Thoughts on the “Post-Season” and Competition

Hey Gang,

I wanted to reach out to everyone to help address some questions, concerns and frustration regarding the U12, U14 & U16 Championships procedure.

Let’s start with the qualification method used for the Piche Cup (U12) and U14 Championships (U14). We currently use the best 3 of 8 runs from our 4 regular season races for these events. The reasoning behind this method has been questioned by some parents as being unfair because it doesn’t provide any sort of handicap factoring for differences in course difficulty or slope pitch.

Changes in snow conditions and contours along with complete freedom on the part of the course setter for each run (not to mention the large amount of subjectivity that occurs when determining the “difficulty” of any given course) make the determination of a fixed handicap for any discipline on a specific slope. Essentially, we can’t create a system similar to stating “par” on a hole of golf because our conditions and courses vary so wildly in comparison to the relatively static and predictable nature of a given fairway or green.How are we to address this obvious need though to determine some form of handicap? Those of you who have or know U18+ racers should be familiar with how this is done, it’s called the USSA/FIS points system. I won’t go into tremendous detail, but essentially the handicap, or “penalty”, for each race is determined by the pre-race ranking of the top 5 entrants and top 5 finishers. The idea here is that, as does happen, tougher races attract better racers and as such should have a lower penalty, whereas easier races won’t attract the same level of competition and should have a higher penalty.

There is one reason why it would be difficult to institute this system for U12-14’s and one reason why it’s unnecessary. It’s difficult to institute because the method used to determine penalties pre-supposes that 5 entrants and finishers already have standing USSA/FIS points. Unless we somewhat arbitrarily assign points pre-season, which would be extremely subjective, unfair and open to vast interpretation, we simply can’t calculate a penalty with this tried and true method. The reason it becomes unnecessary is because we race in a “closed” circuit that doesn’t allow for out of region racers or races to have an effect on our standings. Since we expect all racers to compete at all four races, it’s irrelevant if one race was harder than another. If your time was closer to the winner on a shallow slope and you were further back on a steeper slope, that makes perfect sense. The “tougher” a race is, the more spread out the field will be. Essentially, our system handicaps itself.

I suppose there’s also the argument that we need to account for differences in body size and strength. Again, doing so is extremely subjective and borders dangerously close to being discriminatory. Since we are dealing with growing racers and because there are countless examples of the smaller and weaker racer beating the taller and stronger one, instituting something akin to wrestling weight classes also just doesn’t make sense. We are dealing with kids in the very midst of their skiing development, and the suggestion that a 13 year old who’s the size of most 21 year olds (as was my personal case when racing) just because of size and weight is grossly unfair.

Next, let’s examine the qualification method used for post-season U12-14 events (U16 method will be discussed after). We assign “place points” for each completed run. First place gets 1, second place 2 and so on. This method differs from the USSA/FIS method which assigns points based on the time difference between you and the first place finisher. In this system, first place receives 0 points, everyone else calculates the difference in their time from the leaders, enters it into an equation along with a multiplier that changes based on discipline (this multiplier helps to account for the fact that shorter races – SL – tend to have more closely clustered times than longer – DH – races do). Our place point method does make the job of the top kids a bit more difficult, but in general, as you progress through the field, it actually tends to act as a handicap. I am open to hearing any argument against the decision to use place points in favor of USSA/FIS Race points.

Finally, we can examine why we choose to use best 3 of 8 runs for U12-14’s (and best 3 of 7 races for U16’s). One concern I’ve heard is either that this system doesn’t account for when a racer is better at one discipline and not as quick in the other. This simply isn’t the case with either age group. By imposing no restrictions on a need to complete a certain amount of SL and GS, there exists the possibility that even the first place ranked racers could be there based solely on one discipline. The counter argument I’ve heard is simply that there should be a provision that racers need results in all disciplines. The single best argument against this is the US Ski Team (and other national teams). More often than not, you’ll see competitors who may podium in one discipline but not the other and still be at the top of their game. Case and point is Ted Ligety this past week at the FIS World Championships at Vail. This system affords a generous “amount of fairness” to athletes who excel in one or both disciplines. No system is perfect or without flaws, but the method we use to determine the post-season qualifiers is a VERY good compromise with all factors considered.

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Interclub Race Volunteers

Race Volunteers Needed

Now that we have the first race under our belt, it is time to plan for our home race on Feb 1st. This race depends on Parent Volunteers for its success. It is may be the biggest race of the season as our attendance is so high.

Being able to have a home race really helps our kids as they will have the opportunity to train on the race hill and there is a large comfort factor. It is something our Tristate racers unfortunately have to live with out.

Right now I am drawing up the volunteer lists: We will need people to act as gatekeepers, run scoreboard, registration, take bibs and set up the awards. You do not have to have any experience. We will also provide written instructions to score keepers.

I am also looking for individuals how have helped out previously to manage registration (1) and be available to ensure the volunteers are in the right places during the day (1).

please contact me at peterchudy@mac.com

Peter Chudy
Head of Parents Association

Team Tuning Clinic & U12-16 Tri-State Update

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Hey Gang,

All our Tri-State age groups (U12-16) should plan on bringing their GS equipment tomorrow. The U16’s that are competing at the rescheduled U18 event this Sunday will be training with the older group. Everyone else, please meet outside the Taconic Lodge by the Quad promptly at 8:30am.

I will be hosting a tuning clinic for ALL Catamount Racing families after practice in the Taconic Lodge. If you plan on attending, plan on getting started around 2:15-2:20pm (depending on exactly when practice ends). I will bring some handouts, but if I run out, I will e-mail everything we speak about during the clinic to the entire team tomorrow evening.

Finally, a friendly reminder to all Tri-State athletes. If you have not yet registered for USSA (which now includes your Tri-State dues during sign-up) you need to do so immediately if you do not want to miss out on the first race next weekend (1/11/15). To clarify as I’ve gotten some questions, Tri-State U12-14 racers must register as “USSA Youth Competitors” and U16+ must register as “USSA Alpine Competitors”.

Cheers,

-Stefan

Opening Weekend

Hello,

To new and returning families, the IC coaching staff would like to extend a hardy welcome to the 2014-2015 racing season. We are scheduled to officially begin training this upcoming weekend, 12/13-12/14.

Your patience is requested as we undertake the initial process of assigning racers with coaches. For returning families your understanding of this process is appreciated. Please help relieve any tensions that “rookie” parents may feel entering new territory. As we all know, this sorting out task evolves over the course of the entire season.

Parents can help eliminate tensions and inevitable commotions this weekend in a number of ways. If you haven’t done so already, begin by organizing and checking equipment, including clothing, in advance of one hour before departing to the Mountain. Conduct a safety check of all equipment, especially a binding safety check. Make sure the bindings are attached to the skis and boot liners are correctly paired with the matching shell. Hard shell helmets are required by USSA and Tri State. We require goggles as well. New parents may not be aware of the helmet technicality. New parents can help us identify your racer by printing his/her first name on duct tape and attaching to the front of the helmet. Lastly, please transport racers early enough to the Mountain, so they can be at the base of the double green chair 15 min early so coaches can move their racers out of the staging area by 9:00 am.

Our coaching staff has added some new members this year, and several long-time IC coaches have joined the tri state staff. Moving to tri state are Chris Cashen, Chris Divecchio, and Peter Cross. Moving over from the parent ranks to the coaching staff are, Larry Hess, David Kozlowski and Jon Woodruf. Returning after a sabbatical is Karin Tannenbaum. Her Daughter, Kasey, will be a new addition as well. Kasey is an IC and USSA graduate from Catamount. Welcome to you all and the best regards to coaches in transition. Apologies in advance if I did not recognize any new comer.

Thanks to Bob Mayer, father of Max, who has volunteered to manage the IC component of the Catamount Race Site. Peter Chudy remains our faithful president of the IC Parents Association. As always, we are open to addressing all questions, concerns and input that will support the success of Catamount’s IC Race Program.

Regards and see everyone slope side this coming weekend.

John Greaser

Remember to renew your USSA & Tri-State Memberships

The end of summer is upon us and the competition season is just around the corner. It’s time to renew your USSA & Tri State memberships. To renew online, or to create new memberships, please click the links below. Remember, memberships are required and come with many benefits (like discounts on racing gear).

USSA – Click to register
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Catamount Race Summary

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Greetings,

Well we almost eclipsed the century mark for Catamount race attendance. By my count we sent 94 racers out of the gate to compete in the Catamount home GS race. Out of a possible 188 total runs (94 x 2) our racers completed 93% of their runs. This number falls well within the “very acceptable” range when considering the degree of challenge a course set should present for club racers. Out of the 46 girls competing, seven skied to a top 5 finish, and 19 or 41 % secured a top 10 finish. The boys managed 15 top 5 (31%), and 24 (50%) earned top 10 recognition. When girls and boys top 10 finishes are combined (43), the result indicates that 46% of our racers skied fast enough to earn this recognition. Racers comprised a total of 14 classes (U8-U15); 7 classes for girls and an equal number for boys. Disregarding ties, a total of 14 first place finishes were possible for the Catamount race. Eleven catamount racers earned this mark. Another way to view this achievement is that 78% of the possible first place rankings went to Catamount racers. A number of the age groups had a banner day as well. In particular, the U12G entered 5 competitors and all five achieved a top 10 finish; six U12B entered the race and 5 scored top 10 recognition; eight boys comprised the U13 class and 5 raced to a top 10 finish, the 2 U15G and 3 U15B raced to a top 5 finish. I began this report with the total number of racers that finished the course. If 173 attempts were completed without a fault, that leaves 15 attempts that resulted in either a DSQ or DNF. What I find of interest with this number is that all but 2 racers attempted a second run. I believe one of our racers or perhaps both incured an injury that impeded their return. The underlying message here I believe is one of a desire to improve (resiliency) regardless of an outcome. This attitude is contageous in the sense that the racers who got back in the start gate are role models for everyone. The achievements that our racers earn week-to-week by no means should be ignored, but behaviors such as this deserve special recognition. Saturday we will be focusing on SL training for Sunday’s SL race @ Butternut.

Regards,

John