Category Archives: Tri-State

U12-U14 GS Training Saturday 1/23

Hey Racers!

Just letting you know our plan for preparing for our 1st GS race at Bousquet this coming Sunday.

We will be training on Lower Alley Cat all day on Saturday. Be prepared to have your GS skis, forearm guards (optional) and remember to remove your chin bar from your helmet. Please meet Coach Alex at the bottom of the Quad at 8:25am to warm up.

AM – Work on where to begin and end the turn in a short and focused practice course and when to transfer your weight in the transition in a separate practice course.

PM – We will set a full course with a delay gate to learn how to pass through the gate correctly and apply what we’ve learned from the morning.

Parents we can really use your help in putting up fencing. Due to safety issues, no one can practice on the GS training course until proper fencing is set. Please come to the pump house, skier’s left, above Lower Allet Cat at 8:45am (you do not need poles) where you will be directed on how to help put up fencing. Coaches Sonia, Peter, Chris and myself along with Dusty and Charles will help with fencing as soon as we finish setting the courses. The quicker we get the fencing up, the quicker your racers can get on the practice course!

We’re excited to see you all tomorrow!

Ski you later!

Coach Pat

Registering Online for Upcoming Races (Interclub and Tristate)

Avoid the long wait at the registration table at the Blanford Race this weekend. Go to adminskiracing.com . This link ( https://adminskiracing.com/race-sign-up-info ) offers a step by step instructional guid to creating an account with Adminskiracing.com and registering your racer/ racers in advance for all upcomming races. This applies to both Interclub and Tristate race teams.

Catamount Racers when registering for our Catamount race (Feb

Current USSA membership is required to complete the early registration. If you have not yet completed your USSA membership registration or renewal, refer to these instructions for USSA membership registration or renewal:

  1. Create an online account at my.ussa.org using your email and contact information.
  2. Log In to my.ussa.org and click on “register new USSA member” / renew membership
  3. On page 1 of registration, enter the RACER information.
  4. On page 2 , enter your personal information as “parent or guardian”
  5. On page 3, please enter the racer’s Ethnicity, Citizenship, STATE( Catamount is a MASSACHUSETTS mountain), and CLUB(Catamount Racing)
  6. On page 4, enter the SPORT as ALPINE COMPETITOR and the MEMBERSHIP as (Choose age appropriate category here)
  7. Next you will select add to cart. At this point you will be able to view the charges for both USSA and Tristate registration. Once added to your cart you will be able to register another racer before checking out, if registering more than one child.
  8. Once registration is completed and purchased your USSA cards will be accessible within your USSA account. Print these cards out for each racer. They will present this card at each race registration throughout the season.

U12-14 training tomorrow


Hi U12-U14 Racers!

Great work today! We saw lots of improvement in the stubbies “shinning” gates, in the angled gates learning how to “clear” and even applying it in the training course. I just finished communicating with the other coaches and we are again limited to training on Catamount. There will be a GS course set in the am and pm for those who would like to switch to GS. But there will also be SL training on upper Catamount in the am only. If you’d like, bring your SL skis, chin and shin guards for the morning and GS skis for the pm. We will make it your choice. Remember to remove your chin guard for GS training.

See you in the am,

Coach Pat

“Ski fast…take chances”

Team Jackets – Order NOW – Deadline is 4/9

Here are some details on our new team Jacket. It will be produced by Karbon and ready for pickup at the first team practice. We need to place our order by April 9th. Below is a picture of the Jacket along with a link to order. Click the link below for more Jacket details. Karbon will not accept orders after April 9th, so please place your order ASAP.

Link to order: https://squareup.com/market/catamount-race-team

KarbonTeamJacket

Thoughts on the “Post-Season” and Competition

Hey Gang,

I wanted to reach out to everyone to help address some questions, concerns and frustration regarding the U12, U14 & U16 Championships procedure.

Let’s start with the qualification method used for the Piche Cup (U12) and U14 Championships (U14). We currently use the best 3 of 8 runs from our 4 regular season races for these events. The reasoning behind this method has been questioned by some parents as being unfair because it doesn’t provide any sort of handicap factoring for differences in course difficulty or slope pitch.

Changes in snow conditions and contours along with complete freedom on the part of the course setter for each run (not to mention the large amount of subjectivity that occurs when determining the “difficulty” of any given course) make the determination of a fixed handicap for any discipline on a specific slope. Essentially, we can’t create a system similar to stating “par” on a hole of golf because our conditions and courses vary so wildly in comparison to the relatively static and predictable nature of a given fairway or green.How are we to address this obvious need though to determine some form of handicap? Those of you who have or know U18+ racers should be familiar with how this is done, it’s called the USSA/FIS points system. I won’t go into tremendous detail, but essentially the handicap, or “penalty”, for each race is determined by the pre-race ranking of the top 5 entrants and top 5 finishers. The idea here is that, as does happen, tougher races attract better racers and as such should have a lower penalty, whereas easier races won’t attract the same level of competition and should have a higher penalty.

There is one reason why it would be difficult to institute this system for U12-14’s and one reason why it’s unnecessary. It’s difficult to institute because the method used to determine penalties pre-supposes that 5 entrants and finishers already have standing USSA/FIS points. Unless we somewhat arbitrarily assign points pre-season, which would be extremely subjective, unfair and open to vast interpretation, we simply can’t calculate a penalty with this tried and true method. The reason it becomes unnecessary is because we race in a “closed” circuit that doesn’t allow for out of region racers or races to have an effect on our standings. Since we expect all racers to compete at all four races, it’s irrelevant if one race was harder than another. If your time was closer to the winner on a shallow slope and you were further back on a steeper slope, that makes perfect sense. The “tougher” a race is, the more spread out the field will be. Essentially, our system handicaps itself.

I suppose there’s also the argument that we need to account for differences in body size and strength. Again, doing so is extremely subjective and borders dangerously close to being discriminatory. Since we are dealing with growing racers and because there are countless examples of the smaller and weaker racer beating the taller and stronger one, instituting something akin to wrestling weight classes also just doesn’t make sense. We are dealing with kids in the very midst of their skiing development, and the suggestion that a 13 year old who’s the size of most 21 year olds (as was my personal case when racing) just because of size and weight is grossly unfair.

Next, let’s examine the qualification method used for post-season U12-14 events (U16 method will be discussed after). We assign “place points” for each completed run. First place gets 1, second place 2 and so on. This method differs from the USSA/FIS method which assigns points based on the time difference between you and the first place finisher. In this system, first place receives 0 points, everyone else calculates the difference in their time from the leaders, enters it into an equation along with a multiplier that changes based on discipline (this multiplier helps to account for the fact that shorter races – SL – tend to have more closely clustered times than longer – DH – races do). Our place point method does make the job of the top kids a bit more difficult, but in general, as you progress through the field, it actually tends to act as a handicap. I am open to hearing any argument against the decision to use place points in favor of USSA/FIS Race points.

Finally, we can examine why we choose to use best 3 of 8 runs for U12-14’s (and best 3 of 7 races for U16’s). One concern I’ve heard is either that this system doesn’t account for when a racer is better at one discipline and not as quick in the other. This simply isn’t the case with either age group. By imposing no restrictions on a need to complete a certain amount of SL and GS, there exists the possibility that even the first place ranked racers could be there based solely on one discipline. The counter argument I’ve heard is simply that there should be a provision that racers need results in all disciplines. The single best argument against this is the US Ski Team (and other national teams). More often than not, you’ll see competitors who may podium in one discipline but not the other and still be at the top of their game. Case and point is Ted Ligety this past week at the FIS World Championships at Vail. This system affords a generous “amount of fairness” to athletes who excel in one or both disciplines. No system is perfect or without flaws, but the method we use to determine the post-season qualifiers is a VERY good compromise with all factors considered.

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TriState Party

Tri-State Racer Party

All racers, coaches, helpers, families and others….

Please join us for food and drink to celebrate our Tri-State Racers:

[Saturday, January 17th at 6:00 p.m.] (Note: It’s MLK weekend)
Hosted by Caroline, James and Culton Koster

Address:
1260 Lake View Road
Copake‎, NY‎ 11516*

We will provide lasagna, salad and garlic bread and non-alcoholic drinks. Please just bring your beverage of choice. And, if a couple of people can bring desserts, it would be great!

Please RSVP to ckoster@cantor.com so we can get a head count.

Hope to see you there!

Directions:

*Some have had issues with GPS so here are directions. Call us at 917-751-5575 (cell) or (518) 329-5185 (house phone) if any issues.
When you reach the intersection of Routes 23 and 22 in Hillsdale, you’re about 10 minutes from the house. Keep heading south on Route 22.
About one half mile after the big curves, turn right onto Farm Road. (There will be a pig farm–Pigasso Farm– on both sides of the road.)
Farm Road makes a sweeping curve to the left – just past this curve, turn right onto Twin Bridges Road. Twin Bridges Road weaves around for a mile or so until it T’s into County Route 7A.
Turn left onto County Route 7A (this will be a very sharp/oblique turn).
Drive south on Route 7A for roughly 1.5 miles (just past the transfer station). You will pass Viewmont Road on the left.
Take the next left after Viewmont onto Fairview Road.
After a couple short curves to the left, Fairview Road T’s into Lakeview Road. Turn left and follow Lakeview around Robinson Pond to 1260.

You’ll see our two black Explorers out front.

Team Tuning Clinic & U12-16 Tri-State Update

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Hey Gang,

All our Tri-State age groups (U12-16) should plan on bringing their GS equipment tomorrow. The U16’s that are competing at the rescheduled U18 event this Sunday will be training with the older group. Everyone else, please meet outside the Taconic Lodge by the Quad promptly at 8:30am.

I will be hosting a tuning clinic for ALL Catamount Racing families after practice in the Taconic Lodge. If you plan on attending, plan on getting started around 2:15-2:20pm (depending on exactly when practice ends). I will bring some handouts, but if I run out, I will e-mail everything we speak about during the clinic to the entire team tomorrow evening.

Finally, a friendly reminder to all Tri-State athletes. If you have not yet registered for USSA (which now includes your Tri-State dues during sign-up) you need to do so immediately if you do not want to miss out on the first race next weekend (1/11/15). To clarify as I’ve gotten some questions, Tri-State U12-14 racers must register as “USSA Youth Competitors” and U16+ must register as “USSA Alpine Competitors”.

Cheers,

-Stefan